Note: I have no pictures for this post, so found some old ones of South Dakota and Colorado.
Much of what I think I will say in this post has been in my head for months, really for at least a year. It started to gel into something I wanted to write about last October and November near the elections. Chic’s school held their own elections, and it was not a pretty thing in my opinion. I mentioned this last year, but as a reminder… they voted on the actual presidential candidates. My personal opinion is they should have thought of another way to teach about the election process because all the kids did was ask their parents for whom to vote. When Chic (age 6 at the time) asked Prince Charming and I, we did not tell her. We instead told her as much as we thought she could understand about the positions of the two main candidates and let her decide. We believe it is our job to shape the values and principles of our children, but not necessarily their opinions. Yes, values and principles will affect opinions, but we do not believe in telling our children what to think about every little thing. Long story short, Chic got her voting preferences from her best friends at the time which happened to be for the losing candidate. Being a volunteer at the school, I knew she would be very much in the minority, so I told her to keep her “opinions” to herself. She did, but the other “party” was pretty belligerent about getting others to tell their preferences. Ridicule was rampant for those with whom they did not agree. Chic kept quiet, but it still bothered her that being a supporter of “her” candidate would cause so much ridicule. After the election it was even worse. Because she was quiet about what she did, it should not have been as bad, but the bullies (which was pretty much everyone who voted differently than she–from 1st grade through 8th grade) assumed that people were quiet because they were the losers, so she was harassed anyway. (Had her candidate won, I do not believe the tables would have been turned for those children are among the very. few. well-behaved ones in art classes.)
That attitude lasted ALL YEAR LAST YEAR. Students continually asked me for whom I voted. I would not tell them for many reasons, not the least of which I do not think it is the responsibility of teachers to try to form political opinions in their students. So because I would not tell them, they attempted to ridicule me. Of course I did not put up with this, but it just made me wonder what in the world goes on in their homes that they have nothing better to do than disparage people they perceive to be not like themselves. And it did not end there; it continued into the first six weeks of this school year. Intolerance clearly starts at young ages.
Chic goes to a school that is affiliated with my church. About 30 minutes from my house is another similar school sponsored by another church of the same religion. Many members of my church who believe in Christian education send their children to the “other school.” When we first moved here, Chic was nine months old, and we almost immediately started getting hit by the people who sent their kids to the other school telling us why we should do the same. There were so many reasons why it was a “better” school than the one actually sponsored by my church. But I have to tell you the biggest reason. People actually said OUT LOUD to me, “The new school is sort of known as the ’white school,’ — the one sponsored by the church is the ‘Hispanic school.'” Seriously????
Now if these people knew me at all, they would have known those were the wrong words. If I had no other reason whatsoever (which I had plenty), I would never send my kids to school where the parents of the students (which would show in the students of themselves) thought they were better and elite because they were “white.” OK, I am white. I am pale, lily white. As far as I know, I have little else besides Irish blood running through my veins. My daughters are paler than me and have strawberry blonde and red hair. But I would NEVER go to a school because there was more of “my kind” there; I would prefer to have diversity. Last year in Chic’s classroom, there were 16 students, and she was one of the two who did not have beautiful, smooth, dark skin (were not Hispanic.) Did that bother me? Not in the least. I never even thought about it, unless I remembered those idiotic words people said to me and sat and looked at the kids. Then I smiled.
During last school year, two new students entered in the fall. They were twin boys in 8th grade. I loved them because they were so polite and well-behaved (as opposed to the other 8th graders.) But they were outcasts to their class. Why? Because they were not fully Hispanic. The 7th and 8th graders were in one classroom. There were 17 of them, and all but those boys were Hispanic. They were half-Hispanic and half-Iranian. Sometimes I wonder why I can still be so shocked by people, but I can, and this was one of those extremely shocking things.
To be continued… (Friday?)
November 11, 2009 at 9:31 am
Well written, Louise. And lovely photos.
This sort of thing makes my blood boil too. I’m also dissatisfied with the word “tolerance” which seems to be what we’re asked to aspire to. Few of us want to be tolerated. I’d far prefer to be respected and feel respect for others, in spite of and because of our differences. Looking forward to part two.
November 13, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Thanks for your great comment. “Respect.” Exactly. That word will come out later in this line of my thinking.
Louise
November 11, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Beautiful photos and I’m thinking about your post, but will wait for part 2 to comment. I do agree with Hilary that respect is a fuller and stronger concept than tolerance, but both have a place. Human beings ought to be treated with respect. And also sometimes we believe that the way someone lives or the opinions someone holds aren’t worthy of respect, but they can still be worthy of tolerance.
November 13, 2009 at 8:35 pm
I totally understand. I can’t respect the way of like of a majority of the parents/children at my daughter’s school, but I can show them tolerance.
Terrific comment–thanks!
Louise
November 11, 2009 at 12:43 pm
I really hoped this type of bigotry would be long gone by now. How can these people call themselves Christians and belittle others because of their color and heritage? Their children will call on this prejudice. How sad. It’s beyond me.
Well written Louise. I’m glad to hear you encouraging your girls to think for themselves. We used to call this “problem solving,” but I don’t think schools teach that way much anymore.
November 13, 2009 at 8:48 pm
You are so right about not teaching problem-solving. Well, if it means that a 7-year-old has to completely fend for themselves against the class, then I guess that is problem-solving. (More on that in the future.)
I think I’ll talk about Christians sometime, too. Not sure. There are two sides to that coin, but I know why a lot of people hate them! (To be fair to Christians), in my daughter’s class, she is the only one who goes to church with any regularity. Most go seldom, if ever, so that is likely part of the problem. The are school friends only, but should be church friends, too.
Louise
November 11, 2009 at 1:15 pm
So calm and rational, something I would not be in the same situation .. I look forward to the conclusion
November 11, 2009 at 1:25 pm
This is a very thoughtful post, although it’s sad that such a post is needed (and it is) in this day and age. I look forward to Part 2.
November 11, 2009 at 1:34 pm
When my girls were small, we lived in a pretty “white” neighborhood, but for preschool I drove across town to give them a different experience. They’re grade, middle and HS’s were a good mix. I’m proud of my girls they’re pretty much color blind.
I’m surprised a church affiliated school would tolerate these things. I guess I’m naive.
November 13, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I think CA is much more open-minded than here, and as for church… I’ll get to that. It’s not really about church, but about society and some trends there. In my daughter’s class, she is the only one that regularly attends church. Let’s say the church pays for the school, but it doesn’t do much about the “church members” attend. And I’m not really knocking that; forcing church involvement can cause a lot of problems, but most of the kids have little religion in their lives.(Not that it would fix the problem. I’m well aware of plenty of reasons why many hate Christians. I might eventually mention that in a post, too.)
Louise
November 11, 2009 at 1:47 pm
I’m interested to read the rest of this.
I’m dismayed that the school allowed the bullying to happen.
At MQs school they had an election. She voted for the candidate who won the national election… although I don’t think I ever heard the results at her school. I’m fairly certain that… if people voted with their parents, it went differently. But as far as I know there was no bullying or teasing or anything. I wonder how much of that is because of how it was handled by the school, and how much because the majority at the school weren’t winners. Hmm…
Bullying is awful in all forms. I have lots of friends with differing opinions on all sorts of things, politics being high on the list. fortunately most of them are able to disagree kindly. We need to teach that to all of our children. This turning a different opinion into “other” and “bad” is dangerous, no matter what “side” you’re on.
November 13, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Exactly. But at least where I am, that attitude is rampant. Not just about politics, but about anything.
This turning a different opinion into “other” and “bad” is dangerous, no matter what “side” you’re on.
November 11, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Geez, and just when you think things have changed for the better.
November 11, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Dear Louise,
Impressive words full of feelings.I think your title is perfect, it’s all about tolerance.
I did not have this kind of experience , I mean about elections at school with my kids,anyway I think I could take the same way you got.
I want to read more about your ideas!
God bless you
Léia
November 11, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Wow, I get it– I so get it.
I have no idea how, but I managed to come out of a basically racist (more ignorant attitude than actual racist-hate) home with the same views as you.
I was impressed when we moved here how it seemed like such a “melting pot” with no attention to race, religion or colour. The key word being “seemed”. Things have been said to me that made my jaw drop.
When I was in my early 20’s and someone would say something like, “(insert race) blah blah blah”, I’d stop them and say, “My Dad’s (insert race)”. He wasn’t, but I enjoyed their reactions and back pedaling.
November 11, 2009 at 8:10 pm
That last shot (sunset) is a knockout!
(((I grew up with Arizona Highways Magazine and that looks like it could be on the cover)))
November 12, 2009 at 3:46 am
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November 12, 2009 at 6:47 am
you have bought up a lot of interestign issues in this post – am waiting to hear the conituation
November 12, 2009 at 1:53 pm
I “try” not to judge people. Sometimes it happens before you realize it is. But the color of ones skin or their ethnic background is the last thing on my mind. If I like or dislike someone their color or background has nothing to do with it!
November 12, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Hi Louise,
I stopped by for SWF and became interested in your post. This reminds me of the song, “Everybody Needs Somebody to Look Down On – maybe by Kristofferson. It is unfortunate that even among people that are accustomed to intolerance, there is a need to be intolerant!
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